here's more http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=AM0EYQZET0LAICRBAEZSFFA?type=topNews&storyID=6124494
www.voina.ru
www.pravda.ru

skoti

olka, thanks.

Yea... not much more one can say.If they don't blow themselves up, there might be another Moscow Theater scenario.

Thanks for the updates. I can get the gist of things but my Russian isn't really good enough to do any real translating.

and if they do blow themselves up there'll be a pile of dead children in that school
i doubt putin will allow another west-nord fiasco

Time for the US to get serious about close cooperation with Russia. Pay the Russian nuclear engineering companies whatever they need to stop supplying Iran. Step up intel and military cooperation. Let NATO die a quiet death and replace it with a new Entente comprising US, Russia, India, Israel and Turkey.

Translated from voina.ru:

Terrorists agreed to the negotiations the chief OF UFSB on North Osetia Valerie Andreev it reported that was possible to establish contact with the terrorists, who took school in the North Osetian city Beslane. According to him, the negotiations already began. Furthermore, the representative OF UFSB reported that at present are undertaken the measures for doctor Leonid roshal's search, in order to deliver him into Beslan and to continue telephone-box process with the terrorists, since one of their requirements - negotiations with doctor roshal's participation.

Thank you for the updates. This is terrifying.

We have no one to blame but ourselves... The world was a much safer place when the US and Russia were in a cold war.

Leonid Roshal was specifically asked for by the terrorists. He's a famous children's doctor in Russia. He also was part of the negotiation team in the siege of the theater in Moscow.

Thanks for the GREAT job. My thoughts and prayers go out to the students, teachers and families. Am now referring people to your site from mine, in place of my trying to cover this.

Laughing wolf, thanks.
This is pretty important. Having lunch at my desk, today.

God. I feel sick as I read all of this horrible news. To attack a school is lowest of all possible forms of attack. These people have no dignity or humanity. Our prayers go out to you all.

More links for ya to dwell on:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/russian/russia/newsid_3616000/3616832.stm
http://www.dni.ru/news/russia/2004/9/1/48644.html

not that it matters kp reports it’s school #1 typo?

http://dni.ru/news/glavred/2004/9/1/48596.html ß this is on putin and his situation right now

anywho I’m sick to my stomach so I’m going to stop watching this =/

p.s. love politically correct cnn they call them hostage-takers, and the headline is still rep convention
they should rethink their above the fold strategy

Olka, my bad. That was before my first cup of coffee :)
Thanks!

Regarding the terrorists, nay, regarding extreme Muslims:

Necca eos ominies, Deus suos agnoscet.

RP:

The blame for these horrific acts rests entirely with the terrorists and no one else.

Stan,

Damn right. It's like the IRA used to say, "You have to be lucky all the time. We only have to be lucky once."

Once ONE modern nation decides to grasp the nettle, this problem is gonna be OVER. Doesn't much matter who it is.

Stan,

Thanks for staying on top of this. It's unbelieveable the depths to which these f*ckers will sink.

Preston

I am paralyzed with sickness.
This war will not be won until the Enemy is named.
Terror is an M.O.
Islamazoids are the enemy and Bush better call these bastards out by name soon.

I'm thinking that one of the reasons they chose to take children hostage is because any dose of gas (like what was used in the theatre incident) strong enough to knock-out the adult terrorists would no doubt kill a child.

Deus, I doubt that's their thinking. A school is a soft target, that's all. What's more terrifying to people then child hostages?

By the way, in 1996 Basayev took hostage a whole hospital and made the women in maternity ward stand in the windows to be used as live shields. Sounds like a B movie plot, but it happened.

The latest siege is reminiscent of the hostage drama at Budennovsk in 1995, when Chechen rebels led by Shamil Basayev seized a Russian hospital in order, he later said, to make Russians suffer the way Chechens had suffered. Although 166 hostages died when the very same Russian anti-terrorism unit that is currently surrounding the Moscow theater stormed the Buddenovsk hospital, Basayev and his men escaped.

Fucking Bush. "Making our world safer" my ass.

Eric,

You must be one of those stupid Americans Michael Moore likes to rant about. Chechens were cutting off heads and kidnapping people since the early 90's (on a mass scale, anyway).

http://www.rbcdaily.ru/news/policy/index.shtml?2004/09/01/58721

The last wave of attacks in Russia is blamed on a Western secret service

I'd LOVE to hear the rational for blaming Bush for THIS fiasco...

Go soft (Hint to the dems out there), and the USA will see this as well.

We have no one to blame but ourselves... The world was a much safer place when the US and Russia were in a cold war.
Oh, yeah! Let's blame anyone but the terrorist bastards who are threatening to kill scores of school children! That's f'ing brilliant.

My heart and prayers go out to the poor children being terrified by these bastards and the poor families of the hostages waiting helplessly for their loved ones. I only hope that some deal can be worked out to free them. And I hope those terrorist bastards suffer horrible deaths for this sickening, barbaric act!

jeffers,

Here's a Reuters link.

Russia deployed extra troops to guard dozens of nuclear facilities across the country on Wednesday after militants seized a school in the south and a suicide bomb attack in Moscow, the nuclear authority said.

Words fail me when confronted with such evil but thank you Stan for keeping us updated.

Want to end nuclear proliferation? The US should bomb Saudi Arabia, Israel should bomb Iran, Russia should bomb Chechnya, Pakistan and India should be 'persuaded' to bomb to... oh, I dunno, France maybe.

World peace all around. Cause these 'minority of extremists' that seem to be everywhere is killing us in the name of a 7th century Arabian moon-god.

Has anyone determined definitively whether these terrorists are Chechens, OR ethnic Ossetians who are representing the interests of the mostly Muslim Ossetian minority in the breakaway Georgian republic of South Ossetia? I'm not sure what religion non-Russian North Ossetians commonly are, but South Ossetians are Persian-derived Muslims.

The majority of North Ossetians are Christian Orthodox (same church as ethnic rusisans), it was said that these terrorists are from an Ingushetian village... allegedly.. not 100% yet.
Ingushetians are muslims, by the way.

My heart is heavy with sadness at witnessing yet another school being taken hostage. I am fighting grief off, hoping that the outcome I am all too familiar with, will not come to pass.

All I have now are words for prayer.

How many extermination camps, and how long would it take, to eliminate the over one billion (and growing fast) particles that currently make up the deathcult virus?
The chemical and contruction industries would benefit. Not to mention the resources required to collect and contain all the deathcult virus particles, ready for processing.

managed to turn off at least two guys with witchy ramblings about this situation at a party attended tonight(thumbs up)
tipsy and still pissed at cnn they are still rambling about rep convention
f*ck
taking my camera tomm to the city to take some shots of 'nutty' protesters (bush is in the city (want to make a dirty remark, but restrain self dispite tipsiness ;))))

thumbs up with updates came here before checking up on any news (mostly old ) at other websites

afraid to wake up tomorrow to here of any more senseless casualties
screw russia inadequate pricks, who can't deal with their problems
anywho i'll take PMS any day over this -- ruins your mood 10x

p.s. reading other other blogs and news, in addition, pissed off at all pissed at muslims. People should realize the difference between muslims and fundumental muslims.
sooo, before i change my mind i'm hitting the post button and i'll chat with ya in the morning :))

I've been thinking about these children and their parents/teachers all night, and have searched the web like crazy to find updates. Thank you for providing the information on what is happening.
These slimeballs and all that helped them to take these children hostage should neveer see the light of day again.

Hope the Russion CT operators are getting advice from SAS, GSG9, Delta, or whoever, cause they have a bitch of a target on their hands now.

Slab out.

i think its time to track down who is manufacturing the weapons that are in the possession of the weapons. its about time all weapons manufacturing companies are nationalized and seized and used only for military and police purposes. no individual sales. zero tolerance towards those individual/s in possession.
as far as the current situation goes....tell the dam terrorists ALLAH has committed suicide

Incredible how wrong-headed dope makes people. Blame Bush...blame America...blame non-fat milk...blame the lilies of the field...blame anyone but the vermin who carry out these vile acts.

As G. K. Chesterton (?) once said, "When people stop believing in God, they don't believe in nothing, they believe in anything."

So the streets of NYC fill up with leftists, street thugs, sewer scum, and other useful idiots to vilify those who are willing to stand up against evil.

A pox on all their houses. A pox on the spineless United Nations. A pox on Democrats who require permission slips from France and the U.N. to confront terrorism.

The bright side all this stupidity presents? Bush will win at least 40 states in November!

I'm a mother with two kids and it makes me very uncomfortable imagining this scenario. I keep putting myself in the shoes of the mothers I see in the pictures, and it makes me cringe and cry. I'm not religious but I pray for the kids and all the other victims of these psychopaths, both inside that school and out. They don't deserve to be dragged into these putrid scum's problems. They are just kids. First day of school for some, which is supposed to be happy, exciting event, not such a horrifying nightmare. I hope all the hostages end up safe. And I truly, deeply, sincerely hope each of the hostage-takers suffer a long and painful death, and soon. Damn you to hell!

My suggestion to the North Ossetians would be to destroy the Ingushetians, every one.

Islam delenda est!

Stan,

Thanks you so much for putting all the updates here for us to see. The media have gone very quiet about this... and they're still not calling the terrorists by their name... Islamic terrorists!

Excellent site, well done hope its kept up today

Thank you again for the GREAT job you are doing!

Thanks.

stan check the last update i think that might be an old update when they didn't know who exactly was released. I read the same thing at some point but then looked at the time
http://www.gazeta.ru/2004/09/02/last132177.shtml

they released in total 26
15 children and 11 women

if all the children released so far are below school age then unless I'm missing something the women and infants who were released were in all likliehood there with older school age children that remain inside. I can't imagine what it must have been like for those mothers to be faced with the choice of saving their youngest at the cost of leaving their older children behind. The spirit of Dr Mengele lives among the terrorists.

Olka, yea, I covered that :)
Also posted a list of the released hostages.

stan they released only 26 hostages which you already covered now it sounds like it's 20 more which is wrong :) that's what i meant

My deep gratitude to you for this enormous contribution. We're hanging on your every word.

May Gd protect the lives of those precious children.

Wrong? Not according to the source..
Click the link. I make sure to cite everything.

Olka, you're right. They referred to the same 26 people. There's inconsistency, though. They said 4 children and 22 women were released, but when you look at the list it has way more children then just the 4 mentioned, hence I thought they referred to a different group.

I removed that entry. Thanks for pointing it out.

Thank you for taking the time to maintain this database. It has been very informative.

Stan:

Just wanted to tell you of my deep appreciation of the effort you are making at bringing this horrendous situation to light, and in your keeping people updated with developments. We are learning the hard lessons of playing footsie with terrorists. I look at my 8-year-old son and am reminded that he could be in that situation, too. It is awful for any parent.

I hope that the world wakes up to the reality of these murderers and deals with Islamic terrorists directly, harshly, and completely so other people do not have to go through this hell.

hank, you spelled Y-E-A-H wrong! and it's site note cite

thanks Denise. I was going to say that was pretty much a low misspell count for me when I realized I hadn't used either word. I think. my post is the one above. Stan spelled it yea. But growing up in Brooklyn I spelled it the same :)

Hank,

I blame "growing up in Brooklyn ", too. :]

I also wish to extend my apreciation for your coverage of this situation.

Stan,

Bay Ridge near Owl's Head park for me. how about you?

and I want to thank you for doing this as well. it's the only source of any info on this horror. thanks

Hank,

Lived for about 11 years on 63rd st and 24th ave, and for the past few years in sheepshead bay.

You're welcome!

69th and Colonial Road. but it was a long time ago. long enough that I have vague memories of them building the Verrezano Narrows Bridge.

WORLD WAKE UP!!!! Is this the kind of enemy that requires a "more sensitive" war? It isn't our fault you anti-american peace-niks! You help those bastards, those cowards, those terroists, when you say it is our fault! Whose side are you on anyway? One can say that you are during a wonderful job for PR for the terroists. If you hate us so much, GET OUT! I am so angry at these terrorists! God be with the children, and their families. GET THEE BEHIND US SATAN! Thanks for the updates! Lord knows we can't get any fair news from our media.

I feel so bad for both the parents and their children in this situation. I mean look at the pictures of these children, they look terrified. And what's with half of the kids with no clothes on? I pray that this all ends peacefully.

Mark,

Naked children is no big deal outside of US. Its perfectly acceptable to have your toddlers run around naked on the beach in Europe.

Oh ok. I mean I see nothing wrong with it. I know here in the U.S. we don't show nudity on TV when most of Europe has no problem with it. At least Europeans aren't afraid of the human body.

Stan,

One more question. Do parents allow their children, younger ones I mean, to run around naked in school too over in Europe?

Not as far as I know, but you are loosing the context here. Do you know how many bathroom breaks they got over there? What the conditions, are? Etc.

Thanks for updating and maintining this information. Trying to find updated information about this, is very annoying in the US. You are the only site with current information.

Hope all of those kids make it home in one piece.

No Stan I don't, but I should have guessed that the conditions are not very good. I wasn't trying to go off subject with my questions.

Stan,

It's just that Bush has repeatedly said to the American public that "his" war against terrorism is making the world safer. I'm not blaming Bush for anything except his stupid remarks and the people who believe his war is crushing global terrorism. Will America get involved with this like in Iraq or does Russia have the ability to make sure this doesn't happen again? Stupid question, I know.

Eric,

It is making the world safer. War in Kashmir, Chechnya, Philippens etc., are being financed by rich Arab sheiks. We showed them that we mean business and that they can't just sit around and fund these terrorists unpunished. Look at what's going on today. These terrorists who took the school hostage did not make any demands as of yet. Why do you think that is?
Maybe even from abroad. Whoever is paying them, is controlling them, and the money is coming from abroad. They are definately getting orders from the outside.

Stan:

Gazeta.ru has just printed a letter from Maskhadov condemning the taking of hostages, etc.

I have some advice for Putin and the authorities at the school. Attack quickly, aim at their head, and expect casualties. But foremost of all, do not allow one terrorist to survive the assault. Send this message to terrorism, and it will reverberate loudly.

Best of luck to those in the midst of this.

Skynews (via Utro.ru) reports that two explosions and shots have been heard in the vicinity of the school. It appears to be outgoing fire.

If I was Putin I would round up the ambassadors from Saudi and Paki and tie them to tanks and drive them past the terrorists in the school building. I would also send a message to the Imams in Saudi , Egypt, Pakistan, and other places spreading poison, that if the terrs harmed the schoold children the gloves were off and their countries and their religious leaders and institutions and madrassas and Islamic universitieis and mosques would pay the price starting with Al Azhar in Cairo which would get a nice JDAM type bomb put right on top. The enablers are the Saudi, iranian, egyptian, paki, and Palestinain terrorists. last but not least I would tell the BBC, REuters, the UK Guardian, and CNN if they referred to the terrs once more as "militants" I would string up all their journalists in Russia by the nuts (presuming they have any that is)

ok it hasn't been officially confirmed but utro.ru reported that they made a 'mistake' it's not 354 people held hostage but 354 families which makes it around 1020 people. this claim is supported by the families outside. (how do you miscalculate something like that?)

agree with 'a bomb on mecca and one on tehran' regarding news agencies... totally outraged by cnn's coverage of events. I realize it's not top story on their agenda due to ever eloquent bush speech tonight but the least they can do is call things their own names

at least they switched to 'militant' instead of 'hostage-takers'

Stan,

I cannot know who's controlling these Russian terrorists. I'm glued to your report like a crack-addict to his smack.

stan sorry i'm doing this but based on this (in russian):
http://www.newsru.com/russia/03sep2004/1000.html

2 of the women released by the hostages yesterday when approached by the journalists about the number of people inside were outraged and said that the number is at least 1020 (one said it's around 1500)... 'people are lying on top of each other... the windows were broken after people started suffocating...'

www.gzt.ru... 'everyone knows that the number in the school is thrice the officially reported. "There are 44 classes (each 30 people)" said Fatima Ailarova, who's daughter (6th grader) is one of the hostages "What 350 people? when officially 890 people are registered for this school year + 59 teachers + family members. It can't possibly be less than a 1000. Why lie so cruely?"

one of the women released yesterday discribed the first minutes of the attack. She said that there were many injuries among adults and kids anyone who couldn't walk into school without help were shot in the inside yard, bodies remain there. Men who did not comply were later executed. She estimates the number of executed as 20.

sick sick sick

Thank you for the updates. I wanted to convey my sincere appreciation for your efforts. It's obvious that the media is not affording us any reasonable amount of coverage on this horrendous situation. I am absolutely sick to my stomach over this, literally. People, pay attention, if we sway or become soft, the same thing could happen to us (keep this in mind when voting in Nov!). It's time we stand up and fight these cowardly bags of scum. These acts are conjured up to instill fear in all of us and, quite honestly, with each passing terroristic act, I am less inclined to pay attention to the fear, and more inclined to listen to the fury that continues to escalate to an incredible degree of seething animosity. I'm starting to view this whole terrorism thing (in general) as I did the bully scenarios back in middle school. Unless you finally stand up and beat the f***in cr*p out of the bastard, he/she will never stop the bullying because he/she relies on the fear he/she creates to maintain and build his/her confidence with each passing taunt thrown out at frightened kids. Ever notice how quickly these bullies tended to shrink away into the crowd once they were confronted and had the sh*t seriously kicked out of them?
Ok, I'm digressing from my original intentions for this posting, I'm just so damn angry. I guess I just neede to get some of that anger out of my system.

My heart pours out to all of the children and the families involved in this horrendous situation. I have prayed to god in a fit of tears for the safety of the children and all of those involved. Isn't there anything we can do to help these people? I've been racking my head to figure out what one could do to help in this specific situation. I can't stop imagining my child (she'll be attending her first day of school next week) in the clutches of these sub-human pieces of excrement. For me, such thoughts evoke the initial emotion of absolute fury at the situation in Russia, along with an insurmountable desire to take action! By the way, I don't care whether these terrorists are activists, muslim, jewish, cristian, buddhist or al kaeda affiliates. It doesn't make one iota of a difference and I won't give them the honor of caring because they all blend into one large blur along with their worthless messages. Anyone who is cowardly enough to take a building filled with innocent children hostage is the lowest form of terrorist ever incarnated on this earth and should be treated as such. If they're trying to get a message across with such actions, it falls upon deaf ears here. The only message I'm getting is that these sub-humans need to hear an incredible outcry and feel the heavy hand of the world's anger upon them as they've never felt it before. Then, and only then, will they take their rightful place among society...eradicated from it. God, I'm so angry!!!

situation looks very bad. non stop coverage on Fox right now. non stop gunfire for the 20 minutes I've been listening and it was already under way when I woke up. Report the roof has collapsed.

in regards the earlier comments about the naked children. apparently the conditions in the school are so bad, plus 100 degree heat etc, that the children were allowed to strip off for some relief.

press report, via Fox, that Russian troops in control of building

somewhat sketchy report on Fox. apparently the terrorists finally agreed to allow the bodies that had been lying in front of the school to be removed. as the ambulances approached two mines detonated. a report that some of the terrorists then tried to escape using children as shields. this is when the group of 30 women and children broke free. very preliminary so take it with a grain of salt.

Hank,
that report on Fox comes from the Tass news agency - so should be viewed with some skepticism. As they were reporting the Tass statement from the newsroom in NYC, you could still hear lots of gunfire going on in the live audio. The guy Fox has on the street there sounded very skeptical of that report from what he could see and hear.

thanks dap. I'm just trying to throw up a few items so the rest have some sort of timeline when they wake up.

I've heard that background fire as well. I'm wondering if that may be related to the terrorists who have escaped. They are probably trying to hunt them down. So while the school may be secured, may, the surrounding territory is not.

just praying for those kids and their families

it does now seem that may be the case...
I am sick to death about this whole thing. The thought that this has been so thoroughly planned - like in a committee, and isn't just some random madness, makes me physically sick. What kind of monsters can sit around and coolly plan how to herd schoolchildren into a gym and wire the exits with mines, and use the kids as shields to escape?
But I suppose it's the same kind of monsters who can cut off someone's head on video, or sit around and plan to fly commercial jetliners into crowded office buildings.

Ok the Russians don't have it as under control as first thought. 158 kids (naked - what's with the naked??) taken to hospital. 12 dead so far. Many injured. School roof is on fire. Still some fighting inside the school. So there are still hostages in danger. But I need to find more info than the CNN reporter there on scene talking by videophone. Is anyone keeping a better track on this? Please email me and let me know so I can read and listen at the same time. 5 terrorists are dead, some have fled but there is still some in the school and still some kids in school. I'm on the edge of my seat, could use constant updates from someone there. Let me know who's covering it please? Thank you
~Cindy

ok i'm running to work but couldn't help myself:
so the stormed the school over 300 injured around 12 dead
some 'militants' fleed, others blew themselves up there is a fight in the area

Cindy, i found reuters or nytimes is a bit better than cnn quicker with updates :)
by logicandsanity still better right :) once stan wakes up lol

happy, can't say all well that ends well but sooo happy this is in the past

First of all, I want to thank Stan and the others here who have done tremendous work in translating the Russian news reports and keeping track of the situation. The blogosphere scores again! Second of all, I can't believe that this hasn't gotten more coverage in the U.S. Third, I'm with Susie Q in that I don't give a damn about the ideology of the people who did this -- they need to be taken down, regardless. Using infants as hostages? The very definition of the word "depravity". Or maybe "evil" is more appropriate, and that's a word I don't use lightly.

The kids are naked because it was so hot in the gym (or where ever they were being held).

I am updating.. Just got to work.. Hopefully my boss isn't around ...

Stan - thank you very much for your updates.

Dude, if you get fired, there's always a job as an investigative reporter for AP! Maybe you're in the wrong business...

Noof,

Har, har. AP would make me report on Peterson, not this.

This is what I know thus far. An ambulance went up to pick up 20 bodies and when it did so, the land mines blew up. A little over 150 kids and adults bolted and when they did, the terrorists started shooting at them, then the Russians started shooting at the terorists, putting the people and kids running in a cross fire. Most made it out. There are 2 terrorists still inside the school and the Russians are in there checking room by room. The bomb that went off in the gym made the roof collapsed and went on fire. They are trying to put out the fire but 2 or 3 of the terrorists are shooting at them. Ok, 3 militants holed up in the basement of the school. The Russians did not storm the school. When the ambulance pulled up to get the bodies, the terrorists set off some bombs. They have not been able to reach the gym yet but it is believed there are over 100 bodies in there, some of them badly burnt. There are already over 350 people in the hospital right now being checked out, some very serious and critical. Until they can stop those 3 terrorists from firing at them, get out the fire, get into that gym, there's no way to find out who those 100 plus people/kids who are dead are yet. That slew of psychologists? Those kids are going to need it. They must have started killing them from the moment they took these kids. This is just unspeakable horror and I can't come up with words to express my utter horror and disgust over this situation. There was a report that said the two women blew themselves up after the 20 men were killed but this morning, they said the women took off and are in a neighboring house. This is a school with kids from infancy to adults (parents); there's already more than 350 people in the hospital and there's more than 100 dead and burnt in the gym they can't reach. This is just horrendous. I don't think there is a word to explain how awful this is for everyone even us on the opposite side of the world knowing how horrible that must be. And the more they learn, the worse it gets.
~Cindy

I found the link to your blog on the "FreeRepublic.com" website. Just wanted to express my appreciation for your efforts on this story. Your up-to-the-minute coverage is excellent. CNN, AOL news, and most major media continue the "appeasement" of terrorists by referring to them as "militants", "gunmen", "rebels", and the utterly idiotic euphemism "hostage-takers".
Actually, the occupation of the school -- the murders of the adult men, the use of women and children as human shields, and the barbaric treatment of all the hostages -- is metaphorical of the Wahhabist movement in Chechnya in general. Since the early 90's Wahhabis associated with al Qaeda and the Taliban have been systematically murdering Sufi leaders in Chechnya and establishing jamaats (Islamist schools) to convert the Sufi youth to the extremist Wahhabi sect. Wahhabist "rebels" then use the Sufi population as human shields, to base their attacks on the Chechen militia and Federal forces. The use of female suicide bombers has less to do with "romantic" nonsense about revenge than with a degrading Wahhabi doctrine regarding females: women cannot attain paradise, except as "martyrs" in "holy jihad".
It was encouraging to hear President Bush condemn the terrorists in these latest attrocities, and to say that they are not "rebels" or "militants" but "TERRORISTS" in a worldwide jihad. Now if only the appeasers in our government and media would get a clue....

Stan,

Thanks so much for this coverage. I think a side-by-side comparision of your reporting vs. the mainstream (lack of) effort would make a strong, strong case study. Mainstream media controls what we see no longer.

yeah regarding those hiding in the basement. Supposedly they are still holding children hostages using them as human shields
http://www.newsru.com/russia/03sep2004/stilll.html

gruesome
http://www.utro.ru/gallery.shtml?20040903child,5,17,,240

phenomenal job on this Stan...

What's the latest on who the fatalities are? Some are reporting 100 dead.

100 reported dead in the gym only, but there are so many others...
they don't know the number yet each newspaper reports differently
one said there are 600 injuries

Edward, gazeta.ru reported 150 dead a while back. And that's a minimum. Latest number of wounded, according to utro.ru, is 690.
I apologize for sloppy typing, awkward sentences, etc. I am at work.

Also, would like to thank Olka for helping out.

It was just said on the BBC that Interfax is reporting that there were as many as 1200 hostages being held.

Mark,

Yes, reported here ~10 hours ago.

Zalina Dzandorova, one of the 26 hostages released yesterday, told of this a while back.

BBC is too busy whitewashing the terrorists to report the facts.

Apparently the official ~350 estimate came from a number of last names, not a number of people.

BBC website confirms at least 9 Arabs amongst the barbarians:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3624024.stm

Stan and Olga, thanks for giving us these updates. Without both of you, we'd all be in the dark.

And Stan, if you'd put a paypal link on your site, I'm sure there's many of us who would be happy to donate.

You've put a lot of time and energy into this...

Nannette

Nannette,

Thanks for the offer, but that's not necessary. I am touched, though.

Stan,

You are to be commended for bringing this outrage to the world's attention. Your coverage is lightyears beyond the mainstream media's. I can only hope your boss would be proud of what you have done here. The perpetrators involved are TERRORISTS, not "armed gangs," "hostage takers," "militants" or "rebels." All who see how the media has distorted this event must remember what they have read here.

I am in a towering rage right now. I know the pictures at this site will never make it to prime time and that is a searing condemnation of modern broadcast journalism.

For centuries, Islamism has devoured its own young. Now the Islamists are devouring *our* young. Violent jihadists must all die, and quickly. We do not need a repetition of this event to assure us about it.

Last but not least, thank you so much, Stan. You are doing the world a vast service making sure this reaches the maximum number of people. Anyone who was sitting on the fence about terrorism should be able to make up their mind after visiting your site. Please accept my deepest gratitude.

I left a comment at the BBC site blasting them for their inability to call a spade a spade. They apparently can't use the word "terrorist" unless it's in reference to the IRA. Dirtbags.

And I sure wouldn't want to be a Chechen Islamic terrorist right now. Or any other kind of Chechen, for that matter. The Russians are likely to make an object lesson out of them, and they aren't known for being merciful or forgiving, especially since they aren't constrained by having to care about human rights or international opinion. All I can say is "Give 'em hell, Putin."

You nutbags. Islamic fundamentalism is a side effect, not a cause of a bad root cause that is Russian occupation of a independant state.

Learn some history. Don't just toe the line your government is feeding you. Read.

http://www.hrw.org/campaigns/russia/chechnya/

Stan and Olka,

Thank you so much for the outstanding work you have done here, and are doing. It is much more than a public service, it is the highest traditions of real journalism and a crucial part of the Great Experiment that is America. Spaseba.

YFND,

Chechnya had a de facto independence untill August, 1999 when they decided to invade Dagestan.

Now explain what you said as it relates to this fact.

Stan,

Thank you, sir, from the bottom of my heart. This has to have been one of the most imformative and moving posts I have ever read. Those pictures are gut-renching.

Thank you again, the world needs to see this story.

This coverage is phenomenal. Who are you guys?

oh, and thanks.